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	<title>Ruling Imagination: Law and Creativity &#187; gay marriage</title>
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		<title>The decision in Perry v. City and County of San Francisco &#8212; trial court decision striking down Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 22:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Trying Proposition 8 as teachable moment</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Margaret Talbot notes that a trial can be a terrific method of educating the public on controversial issues. In particular, she focuses on Perry v. Schwarzenegger, the case in which the constitutionality of California&#8217;s Proposition 8, overturning the state&#8217;s gay marriage law, is being challenged. Talbot has been blogging about the trial throughout the 3 weeks it has been going on. Her latest post points out that trials, in subjecting<a href="http://blogs.geniocity.com/friedman/2010/02/trying-proposition-8-as-teachable-moment/">&#160;<b>Read more</b></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margaret Talbot notes that a trial can be a terrific method of educating the public on controversial issues. In particular, she focuses on <em>Perry v. Schwarzenegger</em>, the case in which the constitutionality of California&#8217;s Proposition 8, overturning the state&#8217;s gay marriage law, is being challenged. <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/perry-v-schwarzenegger/" target="_blank">Talbot has been blogging about the trial</a> throughout the 3 weeks it has been going on. <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2010/02/the-gay-marriage-classroom.html" target="_blank">Her latest post</a> points out that trials, in subjecting witnesses to cross examination, permits scrutiny of controversial views that other forums don&#8217;t ever provide. As David Boies puts it “The crucible of cross examination forces the witness to confront the other side; they can’t fall back on bumper sticker slogans like ‘marriage is between a man and a woman.’ ”</p>
<p>Talbot compares the educational value of Perry to that of the trial in <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District" target="_blank">Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District</a></em>, the successful legal challenge against a public school district&#8217;s requirement that &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; be taught as an alternative to evolution as an explanation of the origin of life:</p>
<blockquote><p>In many ways [the trial in <em>Perry</em>] reminded me of another culture-war trial that I covered, in 2005, one that presented a similar opportunity for intellectually engaging with the arguments and research that usually remain submerged beneath a politicized controversy. That trial was to decide whether intelligent design could be part of the curriculum in a Pennsylvania school district, and its expert testimony covered everything from the fossil record of obscure dinosaurs to Darwin’s own religious beliefs to the theoretical underpinnings of the separation of church and state.</p></blockquote>
<p>It really is unfortunate <a href="http://blogs.geniocity.com/friedman/2010/01/supreme-court-decides-5-4-that-those-public-courts-arent-so-public-after-all/" target="_blank">the Supreme Court ruled that <em>Perry</em> could not be broadcast via the internet</a>. I very much would like to have seen a witness explain exactly how it is that gay marriage undermines straight marriage. I&#8217;ve genuinely tried to understand the argument from some very intelligent people who think that gay marriage does indeed undermine straight marriage, but, I&#8217;ll confess, my mind has been unable to get itself around the argument.</p>
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